Doc Holliday has a lot of work to do to make up for so many wrongs. No question about it. But when Doc took a step into the Garden of Eden at the end of Season 3 of Wynonna Earp, it was a sign that he recognized some of what he’s done, and that he wants to do some work to make things right. Now that Doc is back in Purgatory with Wynonna (Melanie Scrofano), the life he was used to has changed up a bit. For starters, demons have infiltrated the Ghost River Triangle and started new establishments like The Glory Hole, where Doc seems to have found himself a job with sexy proprietor Amon (Noam Jenkins).
What will this job and working relationship with Amon lead to? Does Doc going into the Garden change anything for his relationship with Wynonna? Rozon recently spoke with The TV Junkies all about Doc’s quest to redeem himself in Season 4. He also shared his joy about the show’s return, after everything fans went through, and how lucky everyone on set feels to be back. He also talked to us about filming the scenes in the Garden on the frozen lake, and what it was like to have Scrofano direct the show for an episode.
The TV Junkies: I know how Earpers are very excited that Wynonna Earp is back, but what’s it been like for you to finally have the show airing and Earping again?
Tim Rozon: My heart is just about as full as it can be. It’s because we almost lost something that we love so much, and then got it back. More importantly, it’s about how aware we were how much we loved it before we lost it. It didn’t take us almost losing the show for us all to be like, ‘Wait a minute! We really love that!’ We knew! When we knew we were almost going to lose it, it was really scary and really sucked. Then the most amazing thing happened, the Earpers took the reins. Even had we not come back, I would’ve been so happy and proud because of the Earpers and what they did fighting for Wynonna. The attention that the Earpers got made me so happy. We get all kinds of attention, and they are the ones that need it and deserve it. That part made me happy, but don’t get me wrong, being back on set was incredible. Nothing can compete with that.
TTVJ: I definitely want to talk about filming those scenes in the Garden. It was so beautiful, but the weather looked absolutely brutal at times. What was that experience like?
TR: Look, you’re talking to the wrong guy. Everyone hates me because it wasn’t that bad. I’m sure it was freezing, and I keep reading that people said it was brutal, but in that moment, I just don’t remember. Maybe because Doc was running so much? Even though we’re on a frozen lake, I was just running. I’ve got some jackets on too and a little more dressed than some people. I’m just so excited to be back that the last thing I ever think about is being cold. Once they say, ‘Action!’ my brain just shuts off. I’m just Doc, in the moment, and in the Garden. The physical scenes, and fighting with the entire cast, helped and kept me warm.
There was also something about Blizzard Lake that was just so amazing. It didn’t feel like any set we had ever been on. Luckily, I’ve done this long enough that I try not to picture what any scene is going to look like or play out. I go in just knowing my lines and having no expectations of what it’ll look like. Blizzard Lake was just so incredible and so cool. Those first couple of days were just Dom and I, out there with the giant throne of stone, the pillars, and the doors trying to figure everything out. It was super cool and felt like nothing else we had done on Wynonna.
TTVJ: Just the scene where you are running by yourself across the lake, it’s so beautiful. The sky goes on forever.
TR: That’s just a testament to [director] Paolo Barzman. He’s been around since Day 1, and to be honest, he doesn’t get nearly as much attention as he deserves — probably because he doesn’t want it — but at the same time, he really, really is a huge part of our show. He’s just one of the most incredible directors. He had this little crane out there on the lake in the middle of nowhere. So you’re doing these scenes with a huge crane, but it feels like the camera was never around you. Then when you watch it, it’s catching everything. It was a super cool way of shooting.
TTVJ: Doc went into the Garden for Waverly, and he seems to really be working on redeeming himself, but how can we expect that to affect his relationship with Wynonna?
TR: Redemption is a big part of what Doc’s about. He ended Season 3 sucking out the poison and making that choice to go into the Garden and get Waverly. Him stepping through that door is Season 4, and it’s him taking a step in a new direction and into the unknown. He’s leaving his past behind him. Season 4 is about stepping away from the past and moving towards a future that he doesn’t know exactly what it is, but hopefully they are steps in the right direction.
TTVJ: As a big Dolly Parton fan, what did you think when you found out Doc and Wynonna’s safe word was “Dollywood”?
TR: I thought it was incredible! The writing this year has been some of my favorite, to be honest. It’s always top-notch — oh excuse me, top-shelf. But this year, especially, they are just firing on all cylinders. Everybody is! We almost lost something we love so much and got it back, so you can feel it in all departments. Everyone is just so grateful and happy to have our show back. You can just feel that everybody is putting so much into it, and it starts with the writing and stories we’re getting to tell. It’s so awesome to be a part of it.
TTVJ: Melanie mentioned that you were the one who planted a seed in her head about directing back in Season 1. Did you have any idea you did that? What was it like being directed by her?
TR: To be honest, I didn’t know it would have that much of an impact, but I knew immediately she’d be great at it. Don’t forget, selfishly as an actor, I think Melanie Scrofano is one of the best actors working today. She’s probably one of the best I’ve ever shared a scene with, and I know it when I’m in a scene with her. Scrofano is on another level. You have to engage with what she’s giving you, or else she will eat you alive. Selfishly, I want direction from her. She’s also just a great leader and has that presence. When we were talking in Season 1, we were already hopeful and planning seasons down the road. It’s super cool that she decided to do it.
We got a little taste of it last year, and Dom and I were just giddy because we both got great acting notes. Directing is way above my interests. I’m a worker bee. If I was in the army I’d be a good soldier, but I’m not a general. I don’t know anything about lenses or any of that, but watching her do it? It was just the best feeling in the world. I told her that I was just proud of her. I was proud of her as a friend.
Selfishly, as I said, how do I not want direction from Melanie because it’s going to be so good. I was right! She gave me notes and helped me see scenes like I never would’ve seen myself. That’s all you can really hope for from a director. I just thought her episode was incredible. I was watching on Sunday, and she’s the best. She’s an inspiration and it came across.
TTVJ: But what was it really like trying to wrestle and lasso the Ogre Nedley?
TR: That is what it was like to be directed by Melanie Scrofano. That’s Wynonna Earp! It’s just this crazy shit show of fantasy. She was looking at us, not only as an actor, but also the director, and forget all that, as our friend. That’s what that big smile was! It was everything and just like ‘we’re back!’ We got to smile and just enjoy that moment. To be a part of this show is just so special, and a scene like that just reminded me. That was our director, by the way, hog-tied on the floor and smiling at us. How do you not be proud to be a part of something so incredible?
TTVJ: We of course have to talk about The Glory Hole! Doc seems to have found a job there, and he sure has a fun relationship with Amon. What’s your thoughts on their relationship and especially, all that flirting?
TR: Look, you put Doc Holliday in a scene with anyone, since Season 1, there’s just flirting. I don’t know what to tell you. It’s hard to think who I haven’t flirted with. This is also a case of two characters figuring each other out. It’s a bit of a chess game between a master manipulator in Amon, versus the poker player, Doc. I think we’ll learn more about this relationship as we go on.
TTVJ: It’s so fun, and I think you and Noam just play it so great.
TR: Noam is a great guy and it was super fun to do. I don’t go into scenes thinking of how I’m going to play them, ever. I just don’t do that. Had I done that in those scenes, I probably would’ve played them differently, but I’m just reacting to what I’m getting. Amon is right there flirting with you and he’s not an ugly guy. I just flirt! It’s in my DNA, I guess.
Wynonna Earp airs Sundays at 10/9c on SYFY and CTV Sci-Fi.