Daniel Gillies on the shocking Saving Hope finale
SPOILER ALERT– THIS ARTICLE CONTAINS SPOILERS FROM THE SEASON 3 FINALE OF SAVING HOPE.
Well, damn. That just happened.
After three seasons of rock star surgeries, sexy love scenes and a professional roller coaster at Hope Zion, Dr. Joel Goran (Daniel Gillies) is just … gone. Even Charlie (Michael Shanks) and Alex (Erica Durance) shippers couldn’t have seen that one coming.
In Wednesday night’s Season 3 finale of the CTV medical drama show Joel was killed off during one of the episode’s final scenes, in which he pulled a bomb from a patient and wound up accidentally killing himself instead. Meanwhile Alex had her baby, bringing the whole circle of life thing … well, full circle.
“We have loved having Daniel Gillies as part of our Saving Hope family for the past three seasons, and we will miss his presence on set immensely when we return for Season 4,” executive producer Ilana Frank said in a statement. “The decision to kill the character of Joel was one that we did not take lightly, and it was an incredibly difficult decision to make. Creatively, we have spent three seasons with a love triangle storyline between the characters of Alex, Charlie, and Joel, and we felt it was time to move in a different direction as we head into a new season. We are unbelievably grateful to Daniel for his incredible portrayal of Joel, and to our fans who have loved this character as much as we have.”
Because we still weren’t feeling the closure, we caught up with the man of the hour, Mr. Daniel Gillies himself. Although the star had yet to catch the episode (and wasn’t able to watch it live Wednesday night thanks to his filming schedule with The Originals), he still shared his take on leaving Saving Hope, filming those final scenes and his co-stars’ reactions to his exit.
The TV Junkies: How did you find out you were being killed off?
Daniel Gillies: Well I asked to be killed at the beginning of the third season. It was a decision that was very difficult to make. I spoke to my representation and I said, ‘Look. I think we should have this discussion because I have a wife that’s American and I have a daughter that’s an American. Soon I’m going to have another son, he’s going to be an American boy. For all intents and purposes we live in the United States. And this is my home.’ Los Angeles is my home and it was a hard … put it this way. Most actors who are No. 2 on the callsheet of any show with anywhere between 18 and 22 episodes a year are exhausted from the one show. I was doing 40-42 episodes of TV a year, bouncing between two shows. Between The Originals and Saving Hope I was just exhausted. I was just exhausted. And so I put it in their minds, and then they approached me later on in the season and surprisingly they sort of acquiesced. I actually thought they might do it much earlier but they were gracious and allowed it to happen much later in the season.
TTVJ: From the sounds of things, not even your co-stars, as of Wednesday morning knew that you had made that ask.
DG: I knew it could happen because I asked, and I kept that part sort of under wraps. But now I don’t have any need to protect that information. I knew that it was … I wanted it to happen. Because they’d left it so long what became surprising was how late they left it in the season. But I asked for it.
TTVJ: What were other people’s reactions during the table read when everyone found out?
DG: I didn’t really look at anyone else’s reaction. I think I looked at Michael Shanks, who was to my right at the time, and there was an awkwardness in the room. Everyone went sort of silent. And nobody moved. Typically after a read-through everybody gets up and sort of leaves the room and does things, and I think they were expecting something from me. And I had nothing to give. Like I think they wanted a speech or something. This wasn’t sour grapes or ingratitude or anything, this was a guy who had asked to be killed, who was killed, who was eventually killed at the end of the season and that was very gracious of them to let me stay out that whole season. It was just incredible. So they delivered it and I said, ‘Well, thank you. Thank you for having me here. Thank you for this experience.’ I mean what else can you say? Everybody was just dead silent, it was odd. But I wouldn’t change it for anything.
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TTVJ: You and Ben Ayres are friends off set, was it nice to film most of your final scenes with him?
DG: Oh yeah, I love Ben, I became very close with Ben. I think he’s cursed with being too handsome. He’s one of the funniest people around and he’s just got such a dexterity and prowess with his comedy that it’s almost sad that he’s so embarrassingly good looking. He really ought to look like Will Ferrell so he can go out and have this other splendid career.
TTVJ: Do you have an interpretation of what the horse means?
DG: Oh … I don’t know. I don’t really know. I didn’t want to attach any meaning to it because I didn’t think it needed to have meaning for Joel as I was playing that stuff. It seemed so abstract and the show has been guilty of placing abstractions in the show before that never turned out to have any meaning. I’ll give you a classic example, Charlie at the end of one episode jumping on a trampoline in slow motion. It had zero meaning and or kind of justification. So it was just like, well I think this white horse is sort of a trampoline. It sounds very unromantic of me, because there’s nothing more glorious looking than a fabulous, beautiful white equine specimen, but it’s just like, I really didn’t attach anything to it.
TTVJ: With your exit comes another cliffhanger with who the father of Alex’s baby is. Have you given much thought to that answer?
DG: Yeah, I definitely have, I’ve put a lot of thought into it. My thought is in opinion, as most thoughts are when you’re not in control of something. My thought is that the most boring choice in the world they could make was that it was Charlie’s kid. But then they’re going to make that choice. Because … my opinion, my very strong opinion is, I feel like they’re going to make the choice to make it Charlie’s because then it cleans up a nice little pile of mess. It truly removes Joel and it keeps him out of the story. But I think it would be really, really interesting if they made it Joel’s kid. I don’t think the show’s going to take that chance because it will be a more difficult road to navigate, but it will be more interesting. It’s funny because I’ve had a lot of people ask me that question. And people seem astonished that it could be Charlie’s kid. They’re like, ‘No way, this can’t be.’ Meaning that’s just too cute. And to be honest I’m inclined to agree. I think it would make Charlie even more noble if the kid wasn’t his. It would make Charlie even more heroic if the kid was actually Joel’s and he didn’t give a damn. But that’s not the way this cookie is going to crumble.
TTVJ: The show has been a love triangle at its core for three seasons, so how do you think the dynamic without you will change?
DG: Well, it sort of was and it wasn’t. It was this sort of cloud over us, it was this love triangle and it was kind of this inferred thing. But I think when we ever got near that subject matter, then it was like the writers sort of recoiled in fear. What I’m trying to say is when they had to rush this conception between Joel and Alex, they did just that—they rushed it. And it was sort of like this … our togetherness as it were, was so brief and so comet-like that I didn’t feel anything between Joel and Alex. There was such a build and then I think the fear was probably in the writers that if they got us too close then there would be too much of a kickback. There would be a sort of anarchy if they went in the direction of making us a good and strong relationship. Or even just having us be mildly successful.
We circled the love triangle for three seasons. We didn’t actually get that close to it. We didn’t actually really, truly explore it. It’s one of the things that saddens me a little bit about the show. I felt like, OK. We were so busy telling these stories from week-to-week about illnesses and stuff and truthfully I just felt the priority ought to have been the doctors. It ought to have been a show about these doctors. That was the show I signed on for. And the further and further down the road we went the more … the less and less it became about that. It became about the week-to-week and sensationalism of the drama. And we never really accomplished a true sense of the love triangle, because they were terrified of writing actual intimacy between Joel and Alex. I think they were just afraid, knowing they were going to take him way from the whole mix that perhaps fans would find it unforgivable.
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TTVJ: So perhaps because they knew you were being killed off they didn’t want fans to be too invested?
DG: Yeah, you know I think so. But what do I know? I’ve never written a show before. These guys face tremendous difficulties, they get notes from every single angle, they get them from network, they get them from executive producers, and then last on their totem pole are the actors, who all have something to say. And naturally so, because they have to weigh in and say, look—I’ve been playing this character for like 50-something episodes, my opinion should matter to some extent. So there are a lot of masters to please for the writers and I think that makes this a tremendously difficult working environment. Honestly I don’t know how writers write for network television. It just seems like a really Herculean task.
TTVJ: Do you have any parting words for fans?
DG: Just, thank you.
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I will miss Joel of course Daniel is a lovely guy but I was pulled to the show because of him and I totally still think that baby is his. But all the same, I will keep watching and it must have been exhausting for him. Hope the show goes on.
I really think the cast is super however Joel played a big part in my heart! It was definitely a roller coaster ride, so many different emotions all over the place! To be honest I’m not sure if I will like the new season without him! Horrific way to cast him out tho sooo sad😔 Such an amazing actor will be terribly missed, good luck too you!
Farewell & Amen , never cared for Joel, he always came off as arrogant and superior to all the other characters. Never felt Alex could be with him. Charlie is her perfect partner, as for the baby, he’s Charlie’s without a doubt
I was totally shocked. I do understand Daniels was working too much and needed to drop one of the shows. The final show I though was excellent! I personally find Charlie a leading man and can carry the show by himself. I love the 6th sense Charlie has. Maybe Charlie should find his birth parents? They could teach him what not to be as a parent? By the way, why does every show on TV have to have a gay person????
Because having a gay person on the show reflects reality.
Really the gay population is 3.4 percent of the US. It is not reality.
I don’t know what the gay population is in Canada and I do realize that this is a Canadian show.
I love Saving Hope, but think it is far too obsessed with having gay storylines. Ok so equality is equality, but that doesnt mean the show is 50% written with a gay story lines, which it now seems to be. Its pc gone mad.
I realize that “gay” is the newest obsession on TV today. It IS TRUE that more and more people are comming out of the proverbial closet. It is logical that this population of people would want to be represented in our everyday T.V. shows. But I agree with Mr. Easton, in that do the Network/writers HAVE TO make it such a prevalent part of the story line? I mean I know it’s out there, and today more than any other time in history it’s become excepted by most people as ” normal behavior”, but is it really as common as this show in particularly portrays it to be? MABE I’M the one living under the rock! But as far as I can see in the demographic I live in, there just aren’t as many gay people as this show would leave you to believe. Please don’t take my posting as “hate propaganda”! I truly believe that GOD LOVES ALL PEOPLE, and so do I!!!😇 It’s just that I personally feel that this issue is overly represented by this show! Thank you for listening!
Think about it. In a hospital that size, what are the odds that there are no gay people? Seriously. & wtf does it matter?
Really, the Gay comment was so random. Diversity in TV is a good thing.
Sad to see Joel killed off with no goodbyes
Joel I will miss you..you had a part in helping a domestic violence case. I am a survivor and it was looking at it years later.. the way you tryed to help..it touched my heart.. same siguation but was in front of my home ..every body looks the other way. I no it was a show but that’s the only way to get to the victims ..you touched my heart in the show..you showed me it time to change the way we were taught. .behind the wall of marriage n silence. Love n respect rose
I found the writing of the final episode very similar to a Greys’ Anatomy episode years ago. Hmmm did the writers see this as well. Meredith Grey had her hand on a small bomb inside a patient’s body. The bomb expert was able to retrieve it only to have it explode and turn him into “pink mist”. I think the writers could have done a better job by not copying Grey’s anatomy. I like Daniel G much better on the Originals, An honorable original Vampire.
Joel did Not need to die like that. Big mistake taking him out. He could have dated the woman at the street clinic. Alex & Charlie could get married. I hate that he was written out like that. Maybe its a dream so they can bring him back.(yeah).
I just read that they killed him off and I also say it was a mistake. I live in the US and I see SH once a week and in my area they are showing season 2 and Charlie is awake and Alex hasn’t been attacked and she is not pregnant. I read about the episodes and I wish my station would hurry and get caught up. Joel should have just moved or gone to work with Doctors Without Borders. This way the door is open for him to come back. I’ll miss his very good looks and sexy eyes and boyish grin.
He had to pick a show to leave and he’s too big of a part in The Originals to leave that. He’s also been involved in TVD/TO since 2011. I believe this show will still go on but The Originals would probably crash and burn if he was killed off. And that might be fine with you but it isn’t with me or any of the fans of The Originals. I’m sorry that you lost a favourite character though.
I was sad to see Joel die.. Bit I understand why Daniel left.. It must have been exhausting working both shows and doing the amazing job he did.. And if we was gonna lose him in one.. Im glad it wasnt Originals. As far as the baby.. I hope the writers make it Joels baby because I think the story will be more interesting if Charlie chooses to father Joels baby.. And it will honor the Joel character that we have loved.
I will not watch Saving Hope again. Charlie is a wimp, Joel was a character worth watching. It’s too bad, I enjoyed the show but that’s it for me.
I only watched this for the triangle, and yes I think the writers were afraid to let Alex and Joel be together. There needed to be so much more of them and less of Charlie, he was not the man for her, I wish we could have seen them have a little happiness, it would have been so worth it. So angry and saddened.
I strongly agree, another gray’s anatomy mistake killing off (Patrick Dempsey) now killing off such a strong actor like Joel Charlie is not a lead man material I have deleted all the daily schedule of Saving Hope from my recorder I’ll not be watching anymore episode Good luck Daniel I look forward in seeing you in another movie soon sign A Fan
Agreed. I’m not watching anymore either for the same reasons.
Joel is the reason I watched. I think they made a big mistake. I most likely won’t continue to watch.
Too bad Daniels got killed off. He was the best with drama. Never watching show again. and what the hell r the two lesbians trying to make a couple for. Yuck to them yuck yuck. Ruined the show.
I agree ref lesbians. Why do tv execs think that reflects society? It is a VERY SMALL part of reality. Most of us think it’s gross. Stop advocating homosexuality!
The only gross person here is you
I liked Joel as a doctor and as a friend of Alex. I understand Daniel’s decision and wish him and his family the best.
Raises lots of possibilities for Season 4. Looking forward to it.
To be honest, I only started watching this show because one of my favorite characters (Hale) from Lost Girl got killed off and this is where he was and you barely even see him on it anyway. I also watch The Originals, so I’m not that upset that Joel was killed off. It was depressing but I started off watching him on Vampire Diaries and then the Originals in the first place. As far as the baby goes, I think he’s probably wrong. I believe it will be Joels baby because who wants everything cleaned up nice and neat. It’ll be Joels baby with Charlie deciding to step up and take the role as a father because he loves Alex despite her having penis hopped enough to not even know who the father is. To be honest, I’m not that excited to see the next season anyway because they’ve taken so many hiatus breaks for whatever reasons and I started to lose interest. It’s been like a episode a month here, 2 there, none for a couple of months then back again. I’ll likely watch to find out who the father actually is then drop the show all together. This would have been great if there had been more episodes prior to the finale, where Charlie actually began dating someone he could actually fall in love with and THEN we find out Joels has died AND Joels the father because then it would be on Charlie to make the decision does he want to get involved despite Alex having pushed him away for Joel/amnesia, what effects would it have had on his newly formed relationship etc. Except now, we won’t get any of that, Joel’s spirit already asked Charlie to take care of Alex and the baby and Charlie has already told Alex he loves her and she’s already miraculously gotten her memory back just as Joel is taken out of the show. The plot is no longer interesting to me.
I didn’t even realize that was Hale!! Wow! Here in the states it’s only on Tues and repeats Fri, both 2 new episodes a week at 11pm and 12am. Makes for a *really* early morning Wed at 5:30 and I don’t always make it to the end of the second episode, but I try. I love it, but I’ll miss Daniel and his accent. Luckily we’re still in Season 3 so he’s still alive, though apparently not for long… Last week’s episodes were where she starts telling people she’s pregnant and then Joel and Charlie are both convinced the kid is their own. This coming week is where she’s in the woods and sees some guy under a tree.
Sad, I agree with almost everything Daniel said and I totally understand why he wanted to leave. I have almost abandoned this show multiple times because the writers seem schizophrenic. There have been so many promising starts to story lines and then… nothing. This year with Alex and Joel is just one obvious example. There are SO MANY things they could have done. They DID rush it. After such a lovely build up and the start of real intimacy between the characters BAM they have sex. BAM its over. It was disappointing. Even if they were going to kill him off. The story line with Dawn and the foster girl… where’s that? There are so many fragmented bits in this show it’s hard to understand where they are trying to go. There is no cohesion. To me that initial scene with Joel and ALex at her apartment was confusing. I actually thought maybe she was dreaming. But no. I’m deeply sad to see Daniel go, I don’t know how they will fill the vacuum left by his character.
When does season 4 start?
At one point I was able to watch Daniel three times a week. I’d see him on Vampire Diaries, Originals and Saving Hope. Oh, the bliss! When he left Vampire Diaries I thought “well, I still have two!” Good luck to you Mr. Gillies. I will definitely miss those weeks though.
Right! What dint the year error show,he day from the clinic? Her husband died by the hand of the person she cheated with and then they never show her face again? Maybe she’ll show up next season 8 mo pregnant with Joel’s baby..that could be inreresting, albeit sut.
I will miss my New Zealand cousin ..as I affectionately called him…..but I understand now why he is leaving the show,,,,,,HE represented the Gillies name well!
The Pale Horse
Perhaps the most straightforward theory regarding the The White Horse is that it is a character foreshadowing death or impending danger. This equates the White Horse with the “pale horse of Death”, one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse from the Bible.
I haven’t cried that hard at a TV show since Whedon killed off [insert character name here]. Absolutely beautifully written script, and very movingly acted.
ok, best comment ever, about Joss W
Oh!!! I’m stunned!!! That was horrible…what a shock! The show will not be the same without the dynamic Joel Goren. I’m not sure there is a show without his energy added to the mix. He’s a phenomenal actor and his departure leaves a huge hole. Mr. Gillies best of luck with your career and family and, thank you for three riveting seasons.
I have never been so affected by a Season Finale in my life … I even cried when I saw the white stallion galloping through and knew that it was over for Joel … I screamed out NO NO NO NO … of course all to no avail … I loved this program and will continue to watch it … I know I can see Daniel Gillies elsewhere and I do believe there is much in store for this very charismatic, talented wonderful individual … and so very easy on the eyes … Yes, I’m disappointed that he’ll not be on Saving Hope in future, he was a big part of it and one of the main reasons I was a faithful fan … let’s hope Season 4 will be “more of” than in the past 3 seasons. GOOD LUCK TO YOU DANIEL … YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!
I agree. Though I didn’t yell no, I just covered my mouth hoping that there would be a last minute “Hail Mary” and he’d live. But knowing this is what he wanted, changes things a LITTLE. I too have never been affected by a finale like this. I hope it is his baby though. “Messy” or not, it would just be too easy if it’s Charlie’s. Plus it kind of looks like Joel’s. Either way, VERY sad to see him go, especially that way. But I will continue to watch. Just hope the writers stay on their feet and don’t get sloppy.
I thought the season finale was phenomenal. Yes I will miss Joel and his sexiness but I live Charlie. I think this is the most kick-ass Canadian series I have ever seen. Absolute kudos to the writes and producers!!!
Personally I really disliked the love triangle and I’m glad that’s over, but I didn’t expect it to go this way. I figured maybe Joel would go practice his cowboy medicine somewhere remote like before, or maybe switch completely to the free clinic. But I guess with this baby – and I firmly believe it’s his – he couldn’t have left cleanly that way, so yeah, I guess death makes sense. And I’m glad it wasn’t just used for shock value; there are actual solid reasons the actor wanted to leave, and this does pave the way for some really interesting emotional issues in the future. Especially for Zach.
I disagree about the horse though. Death rode a white horse. I figured it was that.
I agree with Vicki; the horse was a warning of the death to come, but whose? The explosion scene was really impressive! Joel left as a brave hero, and I think the “dog tags” tells me that the baby will indeed be his. Charlie will be proud to love and support both Alex and the baby boy. Joel will be missed but ever -present through his child. There are lots of storylines yet to be developed; I look forward to them. I like the new psychiatrist they brought into the show and don’t want him to leave, but I wish they could bring back the first guy; I liked him too! I agree that sometimes these series begin, get interrupted, then return and lose part of their audience; not good!
Major thankies for the post.
I can understand people’s concern about how the show might change following the loss of its biggest anatagonist (face it folks, that’s what the Joel character was for the most part) but I kind of got sick of the moves that were placed on him such as getting built-up to chief and then going all the way back down to being the fair-weather hero overseas and at the free clinic. Don’t get me started on the whole Lexa Doig ‘thing’ with the killed husband!
My dislike for the character does detract from the fact that the writers seemingly had no direction for the character and that is of course not the fault of the actors involved in the show, who I think are all great.
I couldn’t help but laugh at the explosion though!
i was not expeting to see that coming
Just watched the finale… OMG! Didn’t see it coming and had to watch the end through interlocked fingers and curled toes! The end song Rain by Rose Cousins had me near tears too. Best episode yet!
Good luck Daniel on all your future endeavors… you will be missed.
Love the show and all the characters, including Joel. The character Charlie is the perfect man and NOT a wimp. It was fun to watch Joel and Charlie “duke it out” over Alex, but now we all get to watch Alex and Charlie (and baby) move on to the next much awaited step. Loved the last show with the horse showing up in Charlie’s vision – I laughed so hard. Sad to see Joel character leave — wish him the very best. Thank you to the producers for this wonderful show.
I agree, I wanted Charlie and Alex to be together. I also loved Joel’s character and will be very sad that he’s gone. But I also watch the originals so all is not lost. I bawled when he got blown up. I’m so tired of writers portraying women as fickle tramps. That is what ruined Vampire diaries and many other shows for me. You start to hate the characters you first loved. I wish Joel could have stayed and hooked up with Dawn, those two as a couple would have been great. I will still watch the show but it won’t be the same without Joel. But the whole cast is great and I look forward to another season. And I hope the baby is Charlies!!
I’m sure the writers will bring on some new characters for us to like and the story of how Charlie and Alex relate to the situation will be interesting. Here in CA we get the show Tuesday at 11PM and Wed at 12am… I too am wondering when season 4 will start for us here in the USA..
I agree with Vicki & Kathy. For me it was an interesting show because I fell in love with the Alex & Charlie storyline in the 1st season. I honestly didn’t like Joel. I get so sick & tired of watching shows where men or women have absolutely no respect for a relationship & choose to interject themselves into it for their own selfish reasons. And because of my feelings towards that I wasn’t unhappy to see him finally go. I guess the baby being his but him being gone is enough for me to keep watching online (since I can’t watch in the U.S.) although I really wish the baby was Charlie’s. I mean what’s the point of it being Joel’s since he’s not around & Alex said she wanted to have a baby with Charlie & then Dawn couldn’t have one. Anyway, it’s a weird dynamic for me as well because after seeing him on Vampire Diaries (another show where a guy has no boundaries for his own brother’s relationship & pursues his girlfriend to the point I can’t stand the main characters) I fell in love with Elijah & am now in love with The Originals because of him, so I’m happy he’s still on there.
I think you hit a bulyesle there fellas!
I am so sad to see Joel. I was rooting for the under dog relationship. I WANTED Joel and Alex together. :'( I think that baby is Joel the one way that Joel will stay alive and a legacy of him. I was so excited he had finally grown into a man who was ready to commit and love and then he died! Very heart broken right now over the loss of Joel. I will be looking into the originals because I love Daniel Gillies
You can watch in the US on ion channel. We’re a season behind though.
I agree with Tosha. Never liked Joel. I think he saw an opportunity with Alex and didn’t give a thought to how much she actually loved Charlie and how hard she fought for him when he was in the coma. You don’t just walk away from that kind of love because you’re having some memory issues. Glad to see Joel gone. Love Charlie and Alex together and hoping like crazy that the baby is Charlie’s. Will not miss Joel at all.
Tosha I agree with you about not respecting the boundaries of existing marriages/relationships. Didn’t Alex trespass into Charlie’s and Dawn’s marriage? That’s the problem I have with this series. Even though Dawn isn’t terribly likeable, she was wronged by both Charlie and Alex and they seem to get a pass on that. In one scene of a previous episode when Alex told Dawn to stay out of her personal business I was hoping Dawn would say something along the lines of “like you did with mine?” But they’re the protagonists and can’t be portrayed negatively I guess.
I get that the white horse was the omen of death but why call the episode “All the Pretty Horses”? That threw me off as it seems to have little in common with the book/film of the same name.
I haven’t read this spoiler. I was surprised and amazed when I watched the scene. I’ll miss Joel :/
I am sad to see Joel leave I just started to like his character but I also believed Alex belongs with Charlie, and David is better as Elijah in the Originals. I’d rather he stayed in the Originals his character is much better.
I hope the babies Charlies, they deserve it and it would be too hard to write for Charlie to be a father to Joel’s baby. I’m interested to see where this goes now..
I originally started watching the show because of Erica durance (I was a big smallville fan.) and then discovered the rest of the amazing cast. I don’t mind Joel’s death because Daniel asked to be killed off (which I totally understand the reason behind.) I think that they did a great job creating a very strong storyline for the exit of the character and I look forward to seeing what happens next season.
I started watching this show at a later time than what it originally aired. I managed to watch all 3 seasons within a month while also going to work Monday to Friday 9am to 5pm. Nevertheless; i was captivated and impressed by the show in it self. These characters were amazingly picked. The story line is intriguing and inviting. The love triangle between Joel, Alex and Charlie is extremely intense and in some way confusing. The history and chemistry between Joel and Alex is evident and obvious. I would have loved to have seen that explored further more in the show. As Daniel mentioned above perhaps there was a fear that the fans would get attached to the romance Joel and Alex shared. Charlie and Alex however; hold a more imitate, common love story. it is evident that they love each other. Would like to find out bottom line who Alex loves more tho.
THE ENDING OF SEASON 3: HOLY COW… i balled my eyes out. What an emotional roller coster that was for me. Once i noticed what predicament Joel was in during the army base scene; i sensed that something bad was going to happen. BUT… come one how rapid and exaggerated his kill off was, was and is devastating. Not to mention that Charlie can see ” ghosts/ spirits” and saw Joel visit Alex and the Baby. WOW. What a way to leave fans hanging and begging for SEASON 4.
You have earned a loyal fab. Definitely Looking forward.
—Also i am a fan of the originals and man Daniel you are a great actor who can adapt to any character with ease.
Quite disturbing that writers, Mr.Guilles and other cast members all have different versions of how this decision was made and how it came across to everyone.
At least I do not find it to be the usual way, that cast and Mr. Gillies himself learn such news while table reading or one day before that.
Maybe the audience really does not have to know, what is going on “behind the Scenes”. I do not blame them for covering up to a certain extent. But I guess, it is safe to assume, that D. Gillies’ high respect for the writing during the first season changed in the course of the second. Can’t blame him. Unfortunately the writing hat become inconsistent and often opens storylines that do not get followed up. I am also not happy about the way of killing Joel off. That was an “Overkill”, explicitly destroying the whole character. There is always a meaning in such extremes – one, I guess nobody involved can be really happy about.
To be honest, Joel’s character has had a lot of potential which was mostly wasted by the writers. Firstly, back in season 1 when Joel came to the hospital, basically as Charlie’s replacement, he should have been more dominant alpha male style to establish his position inside Charlie’s domain. Than when Charlie awoke from his coma Joel just remained there and turned into a sidekick for Charlie, than promoted to CoC but having the job overwhelm him rather than being in control and than sidekicked again and eventually died.
Also the whole love triangle was very badly done and Joel’s role in it was awfully passive. First Charlie gives up on Alex, supposedly to not drag her down the rabbit hole with him, Joel got into the picture. Than all too quickly Joel messed it up again and the moment it happened Charlie got back in the picture yet again. Than it was Alex who gave up on Charlie so Joel creeped back in. It was never Joel’s decision, it was always forced onto him by the writers.
It’s a shame as I do like Daniel as an actor, the writing just didn’t allow him to flourish on this show. Thus as much as I was surprised by the ending of season 3 like most others, after the initial shock passed it just wasn’t that tragic for me. It was almost like a euthanasia to end the character’s miserable existence on the show.
Y’all are prolly too old to remember 30Something, so you’ll never experience it, but the surprise death on that show remains unrivaled. Whedon’s was stunning, but timing is everything: 30Something’s characters had to go on, absorbing the loss without aliens or a constant diet life & death surgeries to keep them – or us – distracted.
It is amazing that he was able to work on two shows simultaneously with Saving Hope & The Originals but inevitably one of them had to give and it was the former.
While Joel will be missed I will still be seeing Daniel Gillies in The Originals.
This is the only Canadian show I have ever watched. Sad because I am Canadian. That being said, Daniel’s character on the show was the one who made it interesting for me so I believe that I am going to be saying my own farewell to Saving Hope. I agree with the person who commented earlier about how the writers seem to grab onto one part of a story and then just when it becomes interesting it’s done, over before it started kind of thing? But all in all it was worth watching for the first 3 seasons anyway.
I think you should give season 4 a chance before you decide not to watch the show anymore.. this IS a primetime soap series…I watch daytime soaps here in California and it’s the same reaction when they recast a character or kill one off even if the actor leaves for a better role on another show..fans say they will not watch anymore if this one or that on leaves or if this storyline is not how they want the character to act…We have to remember that TV is a BUSINESS and the producers and writers are not wanting to lose you as a viewer..Give it a chance, you might like what they have in store for you.
It is so sad to see Joel leave cause he is the main reason I started watching this after watching him on the originals and vampire diaries I accidentally put this show once when I was bored and as I saw Daniel on this I started watching it I finished all three seasons in less than a month ….I had tears in my eyes when Joel dies but I know it is for a good reason so with a heavy heart I say good bye Joel……..and hello Elijah… GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR FAMILY DANIEL AND I HAV A HUGE CRUSH ON YOU
It is so sad to see Joel leave cause he is the main reason I started watching this after watching him on the originals and vampire diaries I accidentally put this show once when I was bored and as I saw Daniel on this I started watching it I finished all three seasons in less than a month ….I had tears in my eyes when Joel dies but I know it is for a good reason so with a heavy heart I say good bye Joel……..and hello Elijah… GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR FAMILY DANIEL AND I HAV A HUGE CRUSH ON YOU!!!
THATS OUR LITTLE SECRET ^_^
Charlie and Alex are my choice, sorry for going against the grain here, but viewing this from love, they win. Noel, good guy, but just not the one for Alex. I will miss it, but I want fairytale.
Most want Alex and Charlie together hell my husband and I differ in opinion there as well. For me it was all about a Joel and Alex! I saw more passion and desire. Romance and love.
what happened to the original Psychiatrist? One day he just left. I liked him.
I loved him,although his name escapes me right now-I think he bugged out a little after Maggie miscarried their baby,then suddenly decided she didn’t ‘feel it’ for him anymore. She was never good enough for him,anyway!lol And I can’t stand the token gay storylines on every single show you turn on-yes,I said that-but she and the ob/gyn will probably end up together next and be the most ‘normal’ couple ever-Hollywood writers are good at that!lol I didn’t like Maggie after the way she treated fickle Joel,when she was a slut,herself,imo,and seemed so cold about her miscarriage. I’m so glad it looks like Charlie and Alex are finally going to be together-until the proverbial other shoe drops,when it’s Joel’s baby. That said,I actually started to like Charlie and Dawn together for the blink of an eye period of time when she was wanting a baby and it’s sooo sad she can’t get pregnant. Geez,it IS like an old fashioned daytime soap opera!LOL
the first psychiatrist’s name was Gavin
I watch it in the us. I haven’t seen this episode but came across it online. I like him as an actor but hate him on this show. I want Alex and Charlie to be together. Make it charlies baby.
I love that there are men out there like Charlie. He is the right man. Yes Joel was sexier. The security and calmness of Charlie is sexy. I love that he and Alex spent so much time together. Talking about everything. While she was in a coma. Now that she gets her memory back. She can really see how much he did live her. No matter what her decision would have been. Then if she had got with Joel and then got her memory back and realized why her and Joel broke up to begin with. Now she’s in a predicament. Who knows if she would have still loved Joel after the return of her memory. If they would have got married. Then it would be another drag. Maybe Divorce or trying to do the right thing for the baby. Does she not count. If she’s that in love with Charlie. Then she should have what the heart wants. Not what amnesia wants. Joel was awesome and I will miss him being in the show. Just glad it did not tear the hospital apart with untamed emotions.. Divorce.. In love with Charlie.. Married to Joel. Either way it would have been heart breaking… Some one would still be hurting. Joel is gone so his heart can’t burst when she got her memory back and he would have realized she was still in love with Charlie. What then.. It could have went many different ways. Charlie is a good soul. He deserves the love of his life and a family,
I completely agree with the first couple lines about Joel and Charlie. 100%. Now I have to see if they have the rest of Season 3 and Season 4 online, because I would be oh so happy to not have to stay up til 1am to watch on Ion and get up at 5:30am…
Thank god they killed off Joel! No offense, I LOVED his character but since day 1 I have wanted Charlie and Alex to be together! Now they must be. I really hope the producers make the right decision and have the baby be Charlie’s! It only makes sense! If they make the baby’s Joel’s I will never watch the show again. That would be the biggest mistake ever! I mean come on the baby who plays the part even has blond hair!! I live in the U.S. so I only just started season 3 on ION…. But I must admit I have been doing a little “digging” further online, haha. I’m very excited for the rest of the season!!
I have been watching the show since it’s inception. I hated that the psychiatrist left the show. Now Daniel is killed off. And this is in just 4 seasons. I hope the show doesn’t turn into a Grey’s Anatomy storyline. I quit watching that one. The fact that Charlie talks to spirits is what keeps me intrigued. Joel was a bully in my opinion. Charlie really loves Alex. The baby? I don’t think they will find out who the father really is. I think Charlie will just accept Luke as his own. I enjoy the show and will continue to watch Saving Hope.
PLEASE, help me understand what just happened. Joel has left the show? My mouth wide open and eyes filled with tears, not Joel! Now What!
Omg I just cried like a baby but I kinda figured something bad was gunna happen to Joel after I seen alex and the baby were fine…I really don’t now how this is gunna go as far as me still watching the show but we will see…
I have been watching Saving Hope from the edge of my seat everytime the showed aired and I did not see Joels death coming. Jaw dropping shocking, I cried so hard in disbelief. This is a great show and I will continue watching it. Joel you will be missed and I truly understand why you felt the need to leave. Family does come first. You are truly a great actor. I really do enjoy all the actors, they are all very gifted with their talents. I truly am a big fan of the show!!! 🙂
I will not watch Saving Hope next season since Joel is gone. I hope the baby is his, it would be more interesting. I looked forward to each episode because of the relationships between the doctors and got tired of so much surgical procedures – very realistic but too much, not enough romances.
I was heartbroken about Joel’s leavetaking! I originally thought that the “frozen man” would die. I mean someone had to, right? Then I thought Alex or baby would have a severe complication. Because Joel always flew by the seat of his pants, but always was successful, I did not see his death coming until there were 15 minutes left. I said to my friend who watches this show with me, “Oh my God, they have to kill someone-it’s going to be Joel!” The representation of the white horse was beautiful, but every time I see a white horse now, I will have this truly awful image in my head! However, it was better than the standard car accident scenario. And God knows, we’ve had enough comas on this show!
I respect the Director’s decision. I respect that Gillies requested it. But, I literally cried because of the manner that Joel was killed off. Gillies is an amazing fabulous Actor in both The Originals and Saving Hope, a unique type of quality that is difficult to forget. All women dream for a gentlemen with a demeanor and respectable mannerisms as his. It would have been nice if Joel was killed off in a different way where it left him with an opportunity to return to Saving Hope in the future, just like when Charlie was in a deep comatose state for many months. In all reality, I respect that “Family” takes high priority, I get it. But it hurt a lot that Gillies will never return to Saving Hope. I am sad.
It is hard to come by Great Actors as Gillies. He gave all viewers and fans great reasons to keep watching the series even more so. It was more exciting watching the intellectual challenge between both professional doctors Joel and Charlie. I would have truly enjoyed watching the trio for another 10 years. I am truly very sad. I am not young and at 55 years of age, I tend to take “what I saw” in the Finale, very personal. It left me in a state of shock and hurt with very sad tears.
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Holy crap!! I cried like a freakin baby. I was seriously astonished that they killed Joel. Loved him with Alex, but love Charlie too. I hope that they take the show in a good direction: it is a little scatter brained sometimes. I will miss Joel.
Joel will be miss he so sexy and more of an eye catcher then the other guy…Who wants to watch a dude all day talking to potential dead people…I guess I want be watching anymore…
OMG I was shocked I didn’t.t expect that to happen no thought of Joel being killed off I love him all three of the triangle I cryed can.t even bring him back for back .totally took him off .I’m so sad but I read why .I’m 62 yes old .never watch a lot of TV but I wouldn’t.miss saving Hope.love this show.hate to see Joel leave
I let out a scream when it happen because I did not expect it. I love the show. If I cannot watch it I tape it or what ever it is called. Family must come first and I think he is ok for doing that for his family. Someone said in here that Charlie is a wimp. some said they would not watch the show. Come on it is a show These people have lives. Charlie is not a wimp.
I was in shock!
Sickening. I didn’t know in advance DG was leaving the show and that he wanted his character Joel to be killed off. I hated the show’s writers last night. After reading this piece I understand, and I still hate them.
I am blow away and Joel was my favorite……..he was so passionate. I wish him well but I just could’t watch that episode again…..I just still can’t believe the writers shot themselves in the foot.
Omg! I was not expecting that! My heart broke! I wish they could do like the sappy soap operas and bring him back! :’-( Not sure how the show will work out now…
All the people who state they will never watch Saving Hope again are foolish. This is an excellent show going through some growing pains. You can’t abandoned Alex now these writers are doing the best they can. JOEL ASKED TO BE KILLED OFF. HE DOES ANOTHER FULL TIME SERIES AND A WIFE WITH CHILDREN AND A SON ON THE WAY. Give the show a break they are top notch!!
Joel will be missed,me and my daughter she is 13,we watch saving hope faithfully every week.and we cried so hard..did not see that coming at all.sad
me and my 13 year old daughter watch saving hope faithfully,and we were in shock and we both cried very hard..Joel will be missed very much
I was in total shock. I wanted Alex back with Charlie but I loved Joel too. 24 hours later that vision is still in my head. Did they have to kill him in such a dramatic way? I can’t remember the last time I cried like that watching tv. I will miss him very much. I wish him the very best in his future endeavors.
Love Daniel Gillies, brilliant actor. gorgeous. Joel was sexy, interesting, and gave life to Saving Hope. He was the main reason I watched the show. Killing Joel by brutally exploding him was shameful writing. Could have sent him to a foreign country as a medical ambassador, so he could return whenever he might wish. He could marry Alex, or build a great love relationship with Dawn or another passionate, sexy doctor. I like Zach, the handsome and humorous emergency room doctor. I like the two psychiatrists. I like the funny Indian neurologist. Don’t like Maggie’s lesbian story line. Writers need to explore doctor relationships more, and spend less time on many patients. Ensemble cast acting is good overall. I love Daniel Gillies and wish him all the best. Heart is broken that Joel is gone.
It was awful that he died. But I’m not going to stop watch just because his gone. I did like the fight Joel and Charlie had over Alex and other things. But I think Daniel would want us to continue to watch it for his friends on Saving Hope
I was shocked. I just sat there thinking that did not just happen
I was shocked. I just sat there thinking that did not just happen . This show is addicting
I will make this short and simple. Without Daniel Gillies, Saving Hope is like watching paint that never dries. I will not be back, and will be very surprised if the show survives another season without him. LOL You would be better off find Joel’s long lost twin and adding him back to the show. Saving Hope without Joel!? HAHAHAHAHA A very bad decision.
Buh-bye….
I was deeply saddened. I will miss Joel. I can’t believe he won’t be on the show, after him and Charlie finally made it to a point of actually being friends or at least seemingly. I don’t care who’s baby it is, I love Joel and Charlie. I will miss Daniel on the show, won’t be the same without him. Amazing Actor.
I LOVE Saving Hope. So glad Channel 3 in the USA shows it. NBC’s loss. Will miss Joel a lot but he’s on the Originals so…:–)
I am so tried of getting attached to a great show with great characters and having them killed off so violently. Isn’t real live sad enough?
I was truly shocked to see Joel go like that, loved him on the show. He kept things interesting you wanting more. Will miss him immensely. Best of luck to him in the future.
I sobbed so hard I woke my daughter up! That last scene where he kisses Alex good bye and tells Charlie to take care of them……it broke my heart! Did not see that coming! Wow…I love the show and will keep watching. Always thought Charlie was right for Alex. Now that Alex remembers being in the semi ghost like state while being in the coma, perhaps she will be supportive of Charlie, opening the door for him to help others stuck in that nether world state. Knowing Joel wanted out helps a bit.
I am so saddened to see Daniel Gillies’ character killed off on Saving Hope. I can’t imagine the series being nearly as interesting to watch without him. He is an amazing actor. I know he will do well in whatever he endeavors to do with his future. Even though he expressed that he wished to leave the show, I feel from reading his statement that he had hoped to stay on. It is very disheartening. Good Luck Daniel. I will miss you making the show so interesting from week to week.
I cannot and will not watch any longer. Joel was my favorite character. Don’t get me wrong, I love this show and the cast but without Joel, it will never be the same for me. I’m in the US and am a new watcher of Canadian television. I love the shows, they are some of my favorites! Daniel Gillies is awesome! I will follow his career wherever he goes!
I just have to say those commenting about there being too many patients or too many medical procedures on every episode…um…well…the characters are DOCTORS on a show set in a HOSPITAL! Where do you think the title “Saving Hope” comes from??(Hint:The hospital’s name…) And the original premise of the show is that Charlie can communicate with the dead and comatose…!!! Why watch it at all if you want to rewrite the whole thing?? After reading about why Daniel Gillies left the show,and the writers used his leaving to inject a complete shocker,and you still say you won’t watch it next season…well,I pity you! It’s only going to get even better now and Mr.Gillies can enjoy his REAL family more. We all need to get a life,anyway!LOL
Was rooting for Joel to be the father of Alex’s baby. Maybe he is. The Charlie character is extremely annoying. I like this show but I won’t be as into it now that Joel is gone.
My mother and i will miss Joel. He was a good and funny character. True, Charlie is my favorite, but I am sad to see Joel leave. Both are good characters. In the last few minutes, when Joel’s ghost visited Alex and Luke-the baby- I knew Charlie would be there, and to my prediction, he was. Joel had had,”Watch after them.” And Charlie, i couldn’t IMAGINE how he felt. Those two fight over Alex like a puppy over its tail! The love triangle i hated. it was funny, but it was confusing. Funny, because of their reactions and actions. Confusing, because they are both trying to get Alex, but.. They Almost ALWAYS fought, but randomly made a peace! Thats very confusing. Anyway, back to the point… I absolutely will miss Joel, And I wish him luck. The way he was killed was.. Horrible.. I mean, why couldn’t he just throw the bomb away before it exploded? It would of made sense.. Well. We will miss him, And also, people who judge Joel or Charlie, remember the saying ”Don’t Judge A Book By It’s Cover?” Well follow it. They are both good guys. I see nothing wrong with Any character in Saving Hope and will continue to watch it until ALL seasons end. Bring Elijah back. I LOVE Saving Hope, its emotional, realist to a disgusting point, and very interesting to watch. The actors, and the creator of series, did excellent. Also, it’s hard to say who the father of Luke will be. It could easily be Joel’s, or Charlies. But it being 8 pounds, i think its Charlies-(My mom doesn’t even know!)-I love how it keeps us in suspense, and make us wonder what will happen next. Im so excited about Season 4! :3
Sorry about my errors, its early in the morning for me.
It was total shock to see Joel killed off. I had no idea he wanted off. I didn’t like his arrogant better than anyone else attitude but figured he get his turnabout is fair play someday. I didn’t like him with Alex, too much swagger and arrogance. Didn’t seem to care for her feelings, only his own. Charlie and Alex fit together like a glove. I think the writers should have as Joel’s last revenge on Charlie is the baby is his but Alex is only one who knows and tells Charlie it is his for fear he’ll leave if he knows the truth. I will continue to watch cuz I’ve always been fan of both Alex and Charlie from previous shows. And I like the other actors as well. Not sure about the gay Maggie story line yet. Good luck to Daniel and his family and any future endeavors.
I was really heartbroken when Joel was killed off the show, he was the reason I started watching the show because I love him in The Originals, but I do understand why, we have been wondering how he did both shows. We love you Daniel !!
Could not believe the final show with the demise of Joel. He definitely was my favorite on Saving Hope. Am an 81 year old grandmother. Hope to see him in the future in new shows.
This episode was crafted beautifully. The birth of the baby was exquisitely filmed, and the surprise of Joel’s death was powerful. I am really liking this show. The real gritty but educational medical aspect of it draws me to it while the silly sexual escapades are less appealing but, well, that’s everywhere now. I look forward to the show!
I cried like a baby at the end of the season 3 finale. I will miss The character of Joel he made all turmoil of the Alex-Joel-Charlie triangle exciting. Adieu dear Dr. Goran😢
I am horrified by this ending of Joel’s character. He was such a free spirit there is no reason he had to be killed off the show that way. He has repeatedly said he wanted to go do things and go out in the world he could very easily have just gone off to be on doctors without Borders or something like that. Great show, but Bad decision!
This is my favorite show stay up to watch every Tuesday. I think the show is fantastic. I didn’t like Joel at first but that changed and I will truly miss him. I want the baby to be Charlies but it would make a interesting show if it’s Joels. The writers are great so we will see. Joel we will miss you very much good luck to you. Please don’t take the show off.
I love Saving Hope! So happy to see Alex & Charlie together again. The baby should be Charlie’s since he & Dawn couldn’t conceive (she’ll enjoy babysitting). As far as Joel, never found him appealing and his leaving isn’t a loss (to me). I think focusing on Charlie’s ghosts; what he can medically accomplish by seeing/hearing them, and his relationship with Alex (and new baby), will be plenty to keep the show going strong. Charlie & Alex should have the wedding they’ve yet to have. All other characters & their various parts are wonderful.
Didn’t expect that ending, but glad Alex and Charlie ended up together. Think Joel was too much of a womenizer and it would have been a roller coaster. Of a relationship. Wanted a happy ending, but quite shocked on that one. I am sure the drama will continue because Charlie’s ex will probably spill the beans on their little situation.
I think the way the killed off Joel was very authentic. It also maybe might make people realize the dangers our troops in uniform go thru. When they are in battle horrific things can happen. Seeing Joel being vaporized was horrific there was no coming back from that one…Still, they could once in awhile bring him back as a Ghost maybe to help Charlie out with a difficult surgery or something. It was good of the writers to respect Daniel Gillies wish to be with his family. For goodness sakes people he DOES have an everyday life with a wife and kids! His decision to trim down his work schedule was a good one for him and his family. Good move!
Im floored…..I never saw it coming!!! I thought he would have at least thrown the mortar and escape unharmed!! I thought the horse had something to do with Alex or the baby. Its like losing a family member all over again which happened just in April !!!!!!!!!!!
I was upset, I love Joel and Charlie both.I am hoping it is Joel baby.Charlie should step up and help her since Joel is gone. I cried because I suspected something was going to happen.Good luck Joel with whatever you are working on.Your fan Cynthia, love you and going to miss you
I was wanting Charlies &Alex to end up together, but sure didn’t want Joel to die, it was really sad. What I really want to know is when is there going to be more seasons? I really like Saving Hope, but I also like The Originals too, and Daniel Gillies is great on that show too, and plus his love interest on The Originals I think might be hotter and more passionate then Saving Hope’s.
I found this show here in the US on ION and I loved Joel and Alex together. I never cared for Charlie. What I have discovered about the previous Canadian tv shows that I’ve watched is that they always end happy (Rookie Blue, Blindspot — both shows that I love btw). What this means is that Charlie and Alex will end up together, it will be Charlie’s child, they will become the most amazing and successful doctors because of Charlie’s gift of talking to spirits, and it will be like Joel never existed. They will tie everything up nice in a bow. Because of this, I can’t bring myself to watch this show anymore. Knowing that everything is going to end all nice and neat takes away all the drama. Sorry but I won’t be back. :(.
Was DEVASTATED at the horrid end of Joel. I ended up screaming and crying at the TV. Doubt I’ll watch again. Loved Daniel on Vampire Diaries now to get into The Originals on box set catchup!!
I was TOTALLY shocked that the writers would kill off a main character like that. Now after reading what Dannile said I understand why. I wish him the BEST of luck in his acting career although I will miss him terribly on Saving Hope. I actually cried after his last scene on the finaly. I look forward to seeing more shows with him in it. He should also consider staring in movies ad well. I would go see any movie with him in it. LUMU forever Joel.
I so love “Saving Hope” and I totally understand why Daniel asked to be written out….BUT first off, I like him way better than “Charlie” and I don’t find “The Originals” as captivating as “Saving Hope” character wise. I find that the whole cast is great and a real hoot… I will miss Joel’s character very much ! !
do like dallas did with bobby ewing
Omg i cried like a baby i was not expecting that at all. The show is definitely not going to be the same at all. Really wish he would of stayed 🙁 . He will be missed on the show for sure.
I cried, too. Wow… it was shocking.
Wrong choice to kill Joel off this Early , there Was still more to the story line that I’m more than sure Week All Would Of Lovedone to see ! He added that Sexy , Smart , Sudductive to the show ! I really wanted Joel the other be the father it would of kept the mystery going between Joel n Alex ! I Cried like a baby and was disappointed at the same time ! He will be Greatly Missed and I know next season will not be the same without him ! I hope there will be something really good next season to fill the emptiness !!
The horse immediately said it all for me: And I saw a pale horse, and the name of him who sat upon it was Death, (biblehub.com/revelation/6-8.htm)
I knew someone was going to die. But, I was still extraordinarily shocked when Dr. Goran exploded into pink mist. Loved the character. Best wishes to Daniel Gillies in his future endeavors.
Joel telling Charlie to take care of them was a perfect ending. Sad but good.
It looked real! Ironically, it got me to call my Dad which saved his life!
I literally cried at the end of the season I was not expecting that ending my words couldn’t even get through because of how much I was crying.( I know it’s a show but it’s still sad .)
The horse clued me in too – though I hoped I was wrong! White horses symbolize purity, heroism or death, or guides between the worlds of the living and of the dead. I will miss Joel a lot, but I’m glad to find out that I can see Daniel on The Originals, which I didn’t know about before.
I just started watching this show about 3 weeks ago! Had to catch up with the plot and who everyone was. I guess they were showing season 3. Here in Massachusetts. I was not attached to any character.The reason someone referred me to it was that I am into Near Death Experiences, and the person thought that that’s what this show was about, not about Charlie being able to see the souls or psyches of people in comas, or who have just died or who are dead and following a loved one. That fascinates me, though, and it makes it enough. I don’t watch much TV drama.
I wanted to express that if Charlie is going to be HAUNTED by that character who drowned his wife in the bathtub, I am finished with watching. My interested in the spiritual is NOT about the evil drama that TV puts around it all the time. I’m watching Saving Hope on ION TV, which is wall to wall crime dramas. I want to say ‘”We have enough evil on ION TV—please let this evil, raging murder disappear.
I just read this whole thread, which was largely about Joel disappearing from the show. I watched a couple of episodes and he was in them, and then the next week I came back and boom, he is gone. So I came online and found out here. I don’t think I would have gotten attached to him—he was kind of trite as a character. Well, everyone on the show is—but it’s fun. I think the amount of gore they show in the surgeries and the organs etc is interesting. I learn about medical conditions. I don’t agree that it should be more about the doctors. The patients are more interesting, and we learn about the doctors as they interact with them.
What shocks me most about the show is how rude superiors are to underlings. D. Williams, an intern, mentions to Alex as they are walking down the hall that she is sometimes intimate with another new intern, although she is not really connected to him. Just a light remark. Alex SHAMES her, saying “Look, if you make my day any longer than it is, I’ll find another intern.” Okay, so we focus on doctor things, not personal things as we function in our jobs at the hospital. But why do you have to be SO RUDE to a brand new intern, with this very first mistake? She didn’t even know it was a mistake. There is continued rudeness and shaming on the show—I think it affects our culture, internet behavior, bringing up children, and I hate it on this show. But I’m sure it won’t stop. Every show has it.
I’ll probably keep watching, though, unless evil ghosts start to appear. Then I’m out of here!